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pauraque_bk ([personal profile] pauraque_bk) wrote2005-10-27 04:56 pm

GoF 26

GoF 26: The Second Task

Ladies and gentlemen, let me just remind you that the first three rows are in the Splaaaash Zooooone, and when that giant squid comes around, you WILL GET WET!

Erm. Okay. Here we go, then.

[Charms] class was ideal cover for a private conversation, as everyone was having far too much fun to pay them any attention. (416)
Here they're practicing Banishing Charms, sending cushions flying across the room. Again, Flitwick is the fun teacher.

[The cushion] soared into the air and knocked Parvati's hat off[...] (417)
Again with the hats!

'Harry ... maybe Moody thinks Snape put your name in the Goblet of Fire!'

'Oh, Ron,' said Hermione, shaking her head sceptically, 'we thought Snape was trying to kill Harry before, and it turned out he was saving Harry's life, remember?' (417)
Harry doesn't answer; privately, he doesn't know what to think. This is more symbolism than characterization, Ron speaking as Harry's emotions, and Hermione as his logic.

'I just want to know what Snape did with his first chance, if he's on his second one,' said Harry grimly, and his cushion, to his very great surprise, flew straight across the room, and landed neatly on top of Hermione's. (418)
His sudden success at the charm represents that he's put his finger on the heart of the Snape issue, IMO. We still want to know exactly what Snape did with his first chance, don't we?

It turned out that Hagrid knew quite as much about unicorns as he did about monsters, though it was clear that he found their lack of poisonous fangs disappointing. (420)
Maybe JKR thought she'd been making Hagrid appear a bit too incompetent lately. His lesson about unicorn foals goes quite smoothly -- though he repeats his prediction that Harry's going to win the tournament, which is still off-base.

'What?' Harry gasped. 'They've got -- they've got Ron?'

'The thing Harry Potter will miss most, sir!' squeaked Dobby. (426)
Well, of course there's the obvious interpretation here -- Harry ♥s Ron -- but let's take another look.

In the wand-weighing scene, we noticed how Cedric and Krum's masculine maturity, and Fleur's femininity, were contrasted against Harry's sexual immaturity. We've got the same thing here: Cedric and Krum would most miss Cho and Hermione -- their respective love interests -- whereas Harry would most miss Ron, his best mate.

I don't know about Fleur. She would most miss her younger sister -- perhaps another symbol of femininity. This may also be calculated to make us more sympathetic towards Fleur; watch her reaction when she thinks Gabrielle is hurt.

'[...]Dobby heard Professor McGonagall and Professor Moody in the staff room, talking about the next task ... Dobby cannot let Harry Potter lose his Wheezy!' (426-427)
Junior intentionally let Dobby overhear, of course.

Do we have any evil!McGonagall fans in the house? This is a nice juicy bit of evidence.

'You want to try over there!' [Myrtle] said, pointing. 'I won't come with you ... I don't like them much, they always chase me when I get too close...' (431)
I'd forgotten that Myrtle helps him again with this task. He really can't do anything on his own, can he?

The ropes of weed tying the hostages to the statue were thick, slimy and very strong. For a fleeting second he thought of the knife Sirius had brought him for Christmas -- locked in his trunk in the castle a quarter of a mile away, no use to him whatsoever. (432-433)
!!!

This is another one like the mirror in OotP; no matter what Sirius does, he can't help Harry.

'You take your own hostage,' one of them said to him. 'Leave the others...'

'No way!' said Harry furiously[...] (433)'Harry, you prat,' said Ron, 'you didn't take that song thing seriously, did you? Dumbledore wouldn't have let any of us drown!' (436)

'Most of the judges' -- and here, Bagman gave Karkaroff a very nasty look -- 'feel that this shows moral fibre and merits full marks. However ... Mr Potter's score is forty-five points.'

[...]

'There you go, Harry!' Ron shouted over the noise. 'You weren't being thick after all -- you were showing moral fibre!' (440)
This is perhaps the only point where Harry actually behaves in a manner befitting a champion. You go, boy.

Dumbledore and Ludo Bagman stood beaming at Harry and Ron from the bank as they swam nearer, but Percy, who looked very white and somehow much younger than usual, came splashing out to meet them. Meanwhile Madame Maxime was trying to restrain Fleur Delacour, who was quite hysterical, fighting tooth and nail to return to the water.

'Gabrielle! Gabrielle! Is she alive? Is she 'urt?'

[...]

Percy seized Ron and was dragging him back to the bank ('Gerroff, Percy, I'm all right!')[...] (437)
In light of OotP and HBP, I think we're being shown the same thing here about Fleur and Percy -- they both care deeply about their families. I think the idea is that this proves Fleur is worthy of Bill... and hopefully that Percy is also worthy of the Weasley name.

Dumbledore was crouching at the water's edge, deep in conversation with what seemed to be the chief merperson [...] clearly, Dumbledore could speak Mermish. (438)
Well, he didn't learn it at Hogwarts, that's for sure...


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Re: ?

[personal profile] pauraque 2005-10-31 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't personally decided to invite anyone yet, except people I know Switch was thinking about inviting anyway.

I do intend to keep inviting people -- Switchknife asked me to -- but given the unusual circumstances of me taking over the comm, I'm cautious about it. Switch always invited writers and artists who were to his taste, and although we've run in the same circles, we don't have exactly the same preferences. So, you know, it's an awkward position.

That... didn't answer your question at all, but it was the best I could do. :D
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Re: ?

[identity profile] atalantapendrag.livejournal.com 2005-10-31 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
It's just one of those things I always turn over in my head about elite comms... excellent idea in theory, tends to get cliquish in practice. But it would take a huge amount of "scouts" to spot all the best writers.

Not sbout to press about the unusual circumstances, that really is none of my business.
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Re: ?

[personal profile] pauraque 2005-10-31 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
Well, as far as I know, the way Switchknife did it was simply to invite people whose work he noticed and enjoyed, without sweating the fact that he could never notice every good writer/artist. With any venture where not everyone is invited, there inevitably will be some resentment, but I think he avoided a lot of that by never saying that it was an "elite" comm for "the best" writers and artists -- which it isn't -- just the ones he noticed and subjectively decided to invite. (It also helps that Switch is a really nice person and has never had an unkind word for anyone as far as I've seen.)

So, since a lot of the way the comm has been run is dependent on Switch's own personality and whims, it would be hard for anyone to just take the reins and go. I haven't found it particularly easy, at least. :)
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Re: ?

[identity profile] atalantapendrag.livejournal.com 2005-10-31 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
I can't imagine it would be. FWIW, the impression I've always gotten is that p_p is percieved as being "elite", and that's how it's always come across to me.

Which I'm sure doesn't make it any easier for you to take control of a popular and widely-read community! I don't think it's a task I'd have been willing to take on.
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Re: ?

[personal profile] pauraque 2005-10-31 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I know a lot of people do have that perception, I just don't think it was the intention.

There are invite-only comms out there that explicitly state "this comm is only for the best, so if we haven't invited you, you must not be the best". Which is silly, IMO, since quality in literature and art is so subjective -- and even if it weren't, in a fandom this size no group could reasonably pretend to have cornered the market on good stuff.

I think both public groups and invite-only groups have disadvantages. I appreciate having both types around, though.
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Re: ?

[identity profile] atalantapendrag.livejournal.com 2005-10-31 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
I just get aggravated at groups that do specifically bill themselves as elite, but are invite-only with no applications accepted, because then it really does get to be a popularity contest.