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pauraque_bk ([personal profile] pauraque_bk) wrote2004-05-24 11:39 pm

PoA 20

In Chapter 19, we had further discussion of whether Sirius would have died for Peter, some brilliant Remus analysis from [livejournal.com profile] marinarusalka, and there was a general consensus that Chapter 19 rocks hard.

*cuddles Chapter 19, CAPS and all*


PoA 20: The Dementors' Kiss

Note spelling. I'm afraid I've been guilty of writing "Dementor's Kiss".

This chapter is very short, just six pages. So don't think I'm slacking off. *g*


'I'll understand, of course, if you want to stay with your aunt and uncle,' said Sirius. (277)
How does he know Harry lives with his aunt and uncle?

Also, starting in this chapter, he's called "Sirius" in narration instead of "Black" -- Harry's accepted him as a person and a friend. Interestingly, Remus is still "Lupin" after he quits his job. And after PoA, "Pettigrew" becomes "Wormtail" in narration, showing how he's dehumanized in Harry's mind.

Silently they tramped through the grounds, the castle lights growing slowly larger. [...] And then --
A cloud shifted. There were suddenly dim shadows on the ground. Their party was bathed in moonlight.
(278)
At which point, Lupin transforms. Of course, this does not make sense, though I can't say it stopped me on first reading. If it were actually full moonlight that triggers the transformation, lycanthropy wouldn't be much of a handicap: you could just spend those nights hiding in a windowless room. Obviously, that's not the way lycanthropy is presented at any other point in the book.

The best explanation I've ever heard for this is that in astronomical terms, the moon's exact full alignment begins at a particular moment, and that moment happened to be just when the clouds shifted. The discussion was at [livejournal.com profile] prillalar's LJ, here.

Pettigrew had dived for Lupin's dropped wand. Ron, unsteady on his bandaged leg, fell. There was a bang, a burst of light -- and Ron lay motionless on the ground. Another bang -- Crookshanks flew into the air and back to the earth in a heap.
'
Expelliarmus!' Harry yelled[...] (279)
As usual, Peter thinks fast in a crisis. If he's going to transform, he has to incapacitate Crookshanks first, but before he does that, he stuns the closest person to him (Ron, still chained to his right hand) to give himself a second, then stuns the cat, and only then does Harry get it together to disarm him, at which point he transforms -- and Harry's not likely to catch a rat in the dark. And remember, Peter heard Snape say Lupin forgot his potion, so as they were walking across the grounds, he may have been planning ahead to when Lupin would transform. If so, he's the only one who thought of it.

Any way you look at it, Peter = capable and not stupid.

It's interesting that he only stuns Crookshanks. I wouldn't expect him to kill Ron -- Ron's been his only friend for years, and the last thing Peter needs is another murder on his rap sheet. But why spare the cat? Perhaps killing him would just waste time and energy, in Peter's mind.

Also, this is another indication that Peter is left-handed, as [livejournal.com profile] aristide pointed out. Lupin was chained to his left side (276), so when he lunges for the wand, it's with his left hand -- his wand hand, we assume, since there's no sign of difficulty in using it.

... and in the distance, [Harry] heard the familiar screaming ... expecto patronum ... (281)
On re-reading, suggests a different familiar voice in the distance (his own), casting the Patronus, which appears a moment later. Good one, JKR.


You know, despite the logical flaws (Remus's transformation, the fact that Sirius would obviously not be a good parent to anyone at this stage), this is a strangely affecting section. The emotions ring powerfully true. I don't share Harry's wish to live with Sirius, but I feel it.


Past re-read posts are here.
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[personal profile] maidenjedi 2004-05-25 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, and....

Sirius knows from the beginning of the book that Harry's at the Dursley's. He goes there to see Harry before going to Hogwarts, and Harry sees him as the Grim. As to how he'd know, Hagrid told Sirius that he was on Dumbledore's orders to take baby Harry to the Dursley's (I think he told him that much). Even if not, it's logical - Sirius would know that Petunia is Harry's only living relative.

[identity profile] spug.livejournal.com 2004-05-25 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Hagrid turned up at the Potters' house and rescued Harry from the ruins, then Sirius turned up and gave him his bike. Hagrid knew he was to take Harry to the Dursleys already, as he obviously flew right from Godric's Hollow to the Dursleys, where he met Dumbledore and McGonagall (why was she there, anyway, she wasn't a member of the Order?). I presume Hagrid told Sirius where he was going, and Sirius then decided to give him the bike to ensure Harry got a safe journey. I doubt Sirius would just give Hagrid the bike in case he needed it, and without ensuring his godson would be in a safe place.

[identity profile] spug.livejournal.com 2004-05-25 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, perhaps not. I did not take into account that a day passed between the Potters were killed and Harry was placed on the Dursleys' doorstep (reference (http://www.hp-lexicon.org/timelines/timeline_potters2.html#So)). So perhaps Hagrid didn't tell Sirius where he was going... But he might still have done.