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pauraque_bk ([personal profile] pauraque_bk) wrote2004-03-28 12:13 am

amiu - "ruh"

For [livejournal.com profile] ruhgozler:

Réélún "spirit"

Pronounced "ray-loon" (X-SAMPA [ r\`e:lun ]).

[livejournal.com profile] ruhgozler asked for a rendering of the first part of her name, which is a Turkish word meaning "spirit, psyche, id". None of this translates easily, but I picked a word that I thought had a similar feel.

Last week I went into lúe spiritual beliefs a bit; their feeling, as I mentioned, is that spiritual matter is liquid. There are many different kinds of this matter, fundamentally divided into living spirit (fresh water) and non-living spirit (sea water). Both types are found in people, and both types are represented by Réélún -- in both spoken and written form, the word is a combination of the two.

This belief system has some interesting corollaries. Marine animals are not considered to be "alive" in the same sense that people, land animals, and freshwater animals are alive. They can't exist in the lún matter that is the vital force of the living, so instead they must exist among the dead and the unborn. By the same token, non-living people are considered to be as real and present as the fish in the sea.

Next up in the icon queue is [livejournal.com profile] asphodeline. Questions, comments, requests are always welcome.

EDIT: Pssst, [livejournal.com profile] sedesdraconis. The albatross language is called Paaquìha:. It's looking pretty oligosynthetic at this stage.
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[identity profile] wishwords.livejournal.com 2004-03-28 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
I hoped it would be a pleasent challenge for you. Lovely word.

[identity profile] sedesdraconis.livejournal.com 2004-03-29 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
EDIT: Pssst, sedesdraconis. The albatross language is called PaaquƬha:. It's looking pretty oligosynthetic at this stage.

Rockin'.

Any chance of seeing a write up of the species anytime soon? Biology, society, history, language.

Personally, I dislike underline for transcriptions. It doesn't copy most of the time; it's a feature of a string, not of a character, formatting, not content. But I don't know the larger picture for your transcription here...

What's the exact (more-or-less) definition of oligosynthetic, again? Morphology is a real weak point for me. Linguistic morphology that is ;)

[identity profile] sedesdraconis.livejournal.com 2004-03-29 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and BTW, I've been playing with some interesting (if somewhat vaguish, yet) new ideas about development in extreme pair-bonding sentients that I can share with you sometime, if you like.
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[personal profile] pauraque 2004-03-31 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
The reason for the underlining is the same as it is with Amiu. That is, it allows me to apply two diacritics to the same letter, and to be consistent with those diacritics.

Oligosynthetic refers to a lang with a limited number of morphemes.

Actually, I'm a bit stuck on writing anything up, because I don't think I know enough about biology to get that part done. I was going to ask if maybe you wanted to collaborate on that.

[identity profile] sedesdraconis.livejournal.com 2004-03-31 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
'Dlove to. My ability to collaborate via writing is somewhat limited. But we could do some stuff at least, and maybe we should get together again. Maybe next time [livejournal.com profile] architeuthisdux has to go up to San Francisco for some reason, I can come up with her.

Maybe we can do cross-collaboration. I still struggle, alot, with languages, especially morphology. (But, hey, that's what I'm going to school for, to develop my ability to make artificial languages ;)

I revised my Dolicocephaline page couple days ago. The last three paragraphs address some of my recent ideas that I mentioned above.