Mind you, looking through someone's memories as part of a lesson, and doing so on your own time might be viewed as different, for both.
There certainly is a difference. I think that we could also take into account the fact that Harry isn't looking for ammunition in his ongoing battle with Snape, but rather suspects that Snape is hiding some particular piece of information that concerns Harry directly. I'm not saying that intent is more important than the consequences, but that they both matter.
I still think what Harry did was wrong, but understandable given the situation.
When he was being made to take them by Dumbledore and thus Snape, he had little choice; once Snape releases him from them, so to speak; why would he try to make him continue?
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure about this myself. It's just the way he thinks about it - nothing palpable, just a feeling - that gives me the impression that he's not happy with what he did. He doesn't tell anyone about it, not even his closest friends, despite how badly it could hurt Snape's pride.
Of course, given Dumbledore's reaction to Harry looking in his pensieve, and his own interest in other people's thoughts; I doubt he'd consider it the invasion Snape does.) just claim that Snape didn't wish to teach him any more.
Hm, I tend to think that Dumbledore wouldn't have memories he'd absolutely want to keep to himself accessible to others in any way.
Well. Iirc, post-Pensieve, he's desperate to find a way to make Snape the one to blame for his treatment in the memory; which is his primary focus, rather than current day Snape's reaction.
Well, he does, but he also comes to the conclusion that there is no way to make it Snape's fault. Considering how he had idolised his father, it would only be natural to try and put all the blame on Snape - the fact that he accepts the reality he saw says quite a lot about him, I think.
Of course, the fact that he starts imagining his father somehow forcing his mother into marrying him says something else, and is pretty hilarious. I never noticed his dramatic streak before...
So I would consider it probable and IC for him to try to put the blame on others (in this case Snape) rather than examining his own behaviour.
That's all part of growing up isn't it? To take responsibility for your own actions? Still, I didn't see him try to excuse his own behaviour here. He's not confused or angry about Snape's reactions, but rather seem to accept them. Extreme as they may be, they're pretty natural after all.
Is there another instance where he does this, maybe?
I don't think as well of Harry's character as you appear to, but I agree, there's no need for dumbing down characters to either Good or Evil.
I think sometimes fandom is completely polarised. In one part of fandom I ran into the opinion that Slytherin was the one and only source of evil, while in other parts they're though of as poor misunderstood geniuses. That most of them are ordinary school children seem unthinkable.
Heh, anyway, I was trying to list the traits Harry has that I could actually find examples of in canon. And to have a few good and few bad. I guess I failed on that last account?
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Date: 2006-02-02 02:22 pm (UTC)There certainly is a difference. I think that we could also take into account the fact that Harry isn't looking for ammunition in his ongoing battle with Snape, but rather suspects that Snape is hiding some particular piece of information that concerns Harry directly. I'm not saying that intent is more important than the consequences, but that they both matter.
I still think what Harry did was wrong, but understandable given the situation.
When he was being made to take them by Dumbledore and thus Snape, he had little choice; once Snape releases him from them, so to speak; why would he try to make him continue?
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure about this myself. It's just the way he thinks about it - nothing palpable, just a feeling - that gives me the impression that he's not happy with what he did. He doesn't tell anyone about it, not even his closest friends, despite how badly it could hurt Snape's pride.
Of course, given Dumbledore's reaction to Harry looking in his pensieve, and his own interest in other people's thoughts; I doubt he'd consider it the invasion Snape does.) just claim that Snape didn't wish to teach him any more.
Hm, I tend to think that Dumbledore wouldn't have memories he'd absolutely want to keep to himself accessible to others in any way.
Well. Iirc, post-Pensieve, he's desperate to find a way to make Snape the one to blame for his treatment in the memory; which is his primary focus, rather than current day Snape's reaction.
Well, he does, but he also comes to the conclusion that there is no way to make it Snape's fault. Considering how he had idolised his father, it would only be natural to try and put all the blame on Snape - the fact that he accepts the reality he saw says quite a lot about him, I think.
Of course, the fact that he starts imagining his father somehow forcing his mother into marrying him says something else, and is pretty hilarious. I never noticed his dramatic streak before...
So I would consider it probable and IC for him to try to put the blame on others (in this case Snape) rather than examining his own behaviour.
That's all part of growing up isn't it? To take responsibility for your own actions? Still, I didn't see him try to excuse his own behaviour here. He's not confused or angry about Snape's reactions, but rather seem to accept them. Extreme as they may be, they're pretty natural after all.
Is there another instance where he does this, maybe?
I don't think as well of Harry's character as you appear to, but I agree, there's no need for dumbing down characters to either Good or Evil.
I think sometimes fandom is completely polarised. In one part of fandom I ran into the opinion that Slytherin was the one and only source of evil, while in other parts they're though of as poor misunderstood geniuses. That most of them are ordinary school children seem unthinkable.
Heh, anyway, I was trying to list the traits Harry has that I could actually find examples of in canon. And to have a few good and few bad. I guess I failed on that last account?