Tally ho! (or, the kink count)
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I was curious to see what kinks were requested most often in this year's
pornish_pixies Fantasy Fest, so I went through both pages and tallied them up.
There are some quirks to the list, of course. In many cases I had to try to gauge 'voter intent'. When a requestor said "coersion" I ticked dub-con, and when they said "rape" I ticked non-con, but people can argue over the precise meanings of these terms all day. I didn't always add a tally to chan when an underage participant was requested -- only when the requestor actually said "chan" or it seemed that the character's youth was important. I did tick incest when cousins were paired, though I know many non-Americans don't consider that incest at all.
I tried to distinguish D/s from any variety of non-con, but often it was hard to tell what the requestor was really asking for. In general, where they said dominance rather than force, submission rather than slavery, BDSM, giving orders, taking charge, consensual bondage, Dom![character], Sub![character]... that all went into D/s. It's probably still too much of a catchall, but there was a lot of it any way you count.
I didn't consider threesomes to be a kink for the list, though now I wish I'd counted how often they were asked for -- it was a lot. I also didn't count how often teacher/student pairings were requested. In retrospect, I probably should have broken up the voyeurism/discovery/public sex category into more specific categories, and maybe some other quibbly things like distinguishing between werewolf sex, animagus sex, and sentient nonhuman sex rather than just grouping them all as bestiality. (I don't think anyone asked for sex with a non-magical animal.) I also don't have categories for a few really vague things like "romance", which was mentioned a couple of times, and "darkfic" or "angst", both of which got lots of mentions.
57 (requests for) D/s
56 bondage
46 dub-con/coersion
45 incest
42 voyeurism/public/discovery
38 chan
38 non-con/rape
34 dirty talk
31 crossdressing
31 toys/object penetration
27 first time
The middle of the list has some more specific variations on the top kinks, as well as some things you'd expect in a lot of fic but were not usually asked for per se. (Fellatio: Ask For It By Name!) These were all requested between ten and twenty times.
20 rimming
20 oral
17 intoxication/drugs
17 bestiality
16 use of magic
15 anal intercourse
14 orgasm control (denial/forced)
12 humiliation
11 spanking
10 frottage
10 blood/knives
10 wank/handjob
Then there were quite a few requested fewer than ten times, but more than once. I made sure to give "tie kink" its own category separate from bondage; it's one of the local charms of our fandom, I think. The movies may not be canon, but they sure do encourage the smutmongers.
I had never heard of hair-pulling as a fetish until now.
9 collar/pet
9 whipping/caning
8 hurt/comfort
8 rough
8 double penetration
7 tie kink/bondage
7 bodyswitch/Polyjuice
7 biting
7 slavery
6 begging
6 food/candy
6 breathplay
6 marking/branding
6 straight/claiming to be straight
5 prostitution
5 hair-pulling
5 roleplaying
4 body mod/piercing
4 in the shower
4 in the library
4 w/s (anything pee-related)
3 coming untouched
3 bukkake
3 blindfold
3 over a desk
3 marriage/wedding night
3 crying/sobbing
2 felching
2 kissing
2 wandplay
2 motorcycle
Kinks requested by only one person included fingernail scratching, leather, PVC, foot fetish, pegging (it's a crime that only one person wanted this!), fire play, mpreg, Quidditch equipment, loss of bowel control, and T.S. Eliot.
In conclusion: I love my depraved gay fandom. *scritches it*
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There are some quirks to the list, of course. In many cases I had to try to gauge 'voter intent'. When a requestor said "coersion" I ticked dub-con, and when they said "rape" I ticked non-con, but people can argue over the precise meanings of these terms all day. I didn't always add a tally to chan when an underage participant was requested -- only when the requestor actually said "chan" or it seemed that the character's youth was important. I did tick incest when cousins were paired, though I know many non-Americans don't consider that incest at all.
I tried to distinguish D/s from any variety of non-con, but often it was hard to tell what the requestor was really asking for. In general, where they said dominance rather than force, submission rather than slavery, BDSM, giving orders, taking charge, consensual bondage, Dom![character], Sub![character]... that all went into D/s. It's probably still too much of a catchall, but there was a lot of it any way you count.
I didn't consider threesomes to be a kink for the list, though now I wish I'd counted how often they were asked for -- it was a lot. I also didn't count how often teacher/student pairings were requested. In retrospect, I probably should have broken up the voyeurism/discovery/public sex category into more specific categories, and maybe some other quibbly things like distinguishing between werewolf sex, animagus sex, and sentient nonhuman sex rather than just grouping them all as bestiality. (I don't think anyone asked for sex with a non-magical animal.) I also don't have categories for a few really vague things like "romance", which was mentioned a couple of times, and "darkfic" or "angst", both of which got lots of mentions.
57 (requests for) D/s
56 bondage
46 dub-con/coersion
45 incest
42 voyeurism/public/discovery
38 chan
38 non-con/rape
34 dirty talk
31 crossdressing
31 toys/object penetration
27 first time
The middle of the list has some more specific variations on the top kinks, as well as some things you'd expect in a lot of fic but were not usually asked for per se. (Fellatio: Ask For It By Name!) These were all requested between ten and twenty times.
20 rimming
20 oral
17 intoxication/drugs
17 bestiality
16 use of magic
15 anal intercourse
14 orgasm control (denial/forced)
12 humiliation
11 spanking
10 frottage
10 blood/knives
10 wank/handjob
Then there were quite a few requested fewer than ten times, but more than once. I made sure to give "tie kink" its own category separate from bondage; it's one of the local charms of our fandom, I think. The movies may not be canon, but they sure do encourage the smutmongers.
I had never heard of hair-pulling as a fetish until now.
9 collar/pet
9 whipping/caning
8 hurt/comfort
8 rough
8 double penetration
7 tie kink/bondage
7 bodyswitch/Polyjuice
7 biting
7 slavery
6 begging
6 food/candy
6 breathplay
6 marking/branding
6 straight/claiming to be straight
5 prostitution
5 hair-pulling
5 roleplaying
4 body mod/piercing
4 in the shower
4 in the library
4 w/s (anything pee-related)
3 coming untouched
3 bukkake
3 blindfold
3 over a desk
3 marriage/wedding night
3 crying/sobbing
2 felching
2 kissing
2 wandplay
2 motorcycle
Kinks requested by only one person included fingernail scratching, leather, PVC, foot fetish, pegging (it's a crime that only one person wanted this!), fire play, mpreg, Quidditch equipment, loss of bowel control, and T.S. Eliot.
In conclusion: I love my depraved gay fandom. *scritches it*
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Date: 2005-05-10 06:12 am (UTC)I think a fic with all those things'd be interesting.
Especially T. S. Eliot.
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Date: 2005-05-10 04:53 pm (UTC)Getting all those things in there wouldn't be a challenge (she said boldly)--it would be sustaining any of 'em long enough to make sure that someone found the story hot.
Lemme write what I've got on my plate--there are so many children going unaroused in third-world countries, doncha know!--and then we can talk about under-served kink. ^_~
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Date: 2005-05-10 08:30 pm (UTC)I think I hurt myself laughing at this. XD
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Date: 2005-05-10 06:28 am (UTC)Meanwhile, 'coming untouched' is such a lame choice. Premature ejaculation isn't fucking hot.
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Date: 2005-05-10 06:36 am (UTC)I think when people say "coming untouched" they mean something the characters try to make happen intentionally... or, heck, maybe not, what do I know. Heh, there are enough fics where male characters have the mysterious ability to get 'instantly hard again' that it might not matter. (I saw a fic that had that the other day, and... no. Just no. Not unless it's literally magic.)
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Date: 2005-05-10 06:45 am (UTC)I know. I still don't think it's very cool. Then it becomes the mythic 'omg, i got x off just by sucking his toes'. Which is another mysteriously absent kink. And you're right-- I guess if someone has a reloading time of uh, zero, then it doesn't matter does it? (Man, poor guys in HP fandom. That must hurt like hell after a while.)
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Date: 2005-05-10 06:51 am (UTC)If you do suck their toes, is it not coming untouched anymore?
Especially after reading all those requests, it is evident to me that the men of HP are to be pitied for many reasons.
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Date: 2005-05-10 07:05 am (UTC)Very good point.
I know. Poor, poor bastards. (Meanwhile... I see not a single request that's female specific. Then again, I don't see any technically male specific either.)
You know what'd be fun? A swing.
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Date: 2005-05-10 03:57 pm (UTC)I first heard about that "coming untouched" thing from
And go you for going through that list and posting your findings!
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Date: 2005-05-10 12:50 pm (UTC)I'm with you on the medical thing, too. There are so many possibilities! *smacks down plot bunny* Maybe it's because in HP the medical thing isn't quite as intimate as in regular life--it seems to be more wave a wand, drink a potion, than anything really hands-on.
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Date: 2005-05-10 01:27 pm (UTC)In fact wizards seem to react with horror at the 'hands-on' nature of muggle medicine, as we see with Arthur's stitches. It just feels like wizards should reach for a magical solution, and if there isn't one... they try more magic or give up. Which is a shame because... medical kink!
I'd like to know what pegging is too... it seems to me I know this, but all I can think of now is cribbage. And pirates. And pirates playing cribbage.
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Date: 2005-05-10 02:46 pm (UTC)Not that I really really want to read that now or anything...
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Date: 2005-05-10 08:19 pm (UTC)No, I've never thought about it *smirk*What is then figging, that someone mentioned above?
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Date: 2005-05-12 05:40 pm (UTC)Um, what would I have to do to beg a copy from you?
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Date: 2005-05-13 08:10 am (UTC)If you still want it though, I'd be happy to send you a copy.
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Date: 2005-05-10 08:20 pm (UTC)Strange with the leather tho... I thought Leatherpants!Draco and his ilk were really popular. Or have they become uncool now?
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