Ship meme. Part two.

[pauraque_bk]

First, I have to show you guys the coolest thing ever, gacked from prillalar:

Michael Jackson's "Thriller", re-enacted in stop-motion LEGO.

Yes, the whole thing. My hat is off.

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And here's the second part of the ship meme. The first part's here. I think this batch is somewhat less crazed than the first. Still, same idea -- exactly 100 words about a variety of ships.

heartstencil: Elim Garak/Julian Bashir (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine)

I was never really in DS9 fandom, though I did used to read a lot in it, very often this pairing. I know there's some really good Garak/Bashir, yet somehow the fic that always sticks in my mind is some hilariously cliché-ridden thing where poor Julian had been a teenaged prostitute in his youth (and who hasn't?) and needed Teh Healing Sex0rz from Garak. Good times.

But seriously, this is a great pairing. Cardassians are dead sexy, and you couldn't ask for heavier subtext. They were totally dating. Years later, I remember the interspecies homoeroticism better than the galactic politics.


duckpuppy: Remus Lupin/Draco Malfoy

Heh. I haven't given this pairing too much thought, though recently slippyslope has been showing me the light. Do they even interact in canon at all? I think Draco is said to dislike Lupin in PoA, though I can't remember if there's any given reason aside from an ornery insistence on hating anyone Harry likes.

I'd like to see this pairing as a collapsed triangle with Snape at the vertex. Somehow I find it easier to believe each of them having an intense and interesting relationship with Snape on separate terms than engaging interestingly on their own without that influence.


millefiori: Draco Malfoy/Neville Longbottom

I've never read the Epic Fic for this pairing (and probably never will), but I have seen it in shorter fics. I'm not sure why some writers want to make it cute and romantic and inevitable, when it seems that it would be so much more interesting to make it messed up. Power play. Revenge fantasies. Rich material there. (Is someone doing Neville/Draco for the pornish_pixies D/s fest? They better be.)

It's tricky in some of the same ways that I find Snape/Sirius tricky. I remember the kids who bullied me, and I distinctly did not secretly lust after them.


linaelyn: The Titanic

Biggest ship ever!

Way back in the mists of time, some friends and I took a bus to Colorado for a Rocky Horror Picture Show convention. On the way there, we encountered another group of travelers who were taking the bus to Colorado for a Titanic convention. This was shortly after the DiCaprio flick came out; while I guess it's possible they were history buffs, it seemed more likely to me that they were along the order of squeeing fangirls with period costumes in their suitcases and notebooks full of Suefic.

It's hard to say which group was more bemused.


biichan take two: Lucius Malfoy/Lionel Luthor (HP/Smallville)

Hard to say much about this that nopejr didn't say already. Earlier I had occasion to describe Lionel to somebody as "Lucius without the magic", though that's not entirely accurate. For one thing, Lionel falls into that rarefied category of Villains Whose Evil Plans Actually Work (which endears him to me in the extreme), whereas Lucius seems pretty ineffectual by comparison. I suspect the HP villain whose efficacy most closely approaches Lionel's is Peter, though of course they go about it in rather different ways. (Lionel/Peter? Heh, no.)

In conclusion: Can I watch Jason Isaacs and John Glover shag? Pleeeeeeease?


marksykins: Remus Lupin/Neville Longbottom

I love this ship! You know Neville had a crush on him in PoA. The pairing can be written sweetly, but can also support some delightful messed-up-ness. The Boggart scene can be read as giving Neville positive reinforcement, but there's cruelty in it as well-- vengeance. You can also take it in a triangular direction: when all is said and done, Remus is more invested in Harry than any of the other kids, Neville included. And of course there's also the inherent dirtiness of the teacher/student sexual dynamic, which-- mm. Tasty.

There should be much more Remus/Neville. And Remus/Neville/Harry. Yep.


_hannelore: Otto Octavius/Peter Parker (Spider-Man movieverse)

Did you know Doc Ock anagrams to "do cock"?

These movies are tough on a slasher, because they're narratively unqueer. The hero is reaching toward straightness, normalcy. The villains' heterosexual love interests must be lost before they can indeed become villainous. Otto loses his wife, and he re-bonds with... monsters? Aspects of himself? Intimacy outside the movie's framework of acceptability-- we don't understand it. It's queer. He has to kill himself at the end.

He doesn't die in mine, of course. To slash him with Peter, I had to kill off Peter's heterosexual love interest too, even though I like her a lot.

I could write more about this.


anaid_rabbit: Lucius Malfoy/Narcissa Malfoy

Now, HP *is* narratively queer, which I think is why HP het holds relatively little interest for me. But I actually like Lucius/Narcissa, maybe because it tends to be written in a queer way. A threesome with Snape, or a triangle with Voldemort, or Narcissa is a boy, or Lucius is a girl, or they're cousins, or.... It tends to be very villainous and decadent, too, which is fun when I'm in the mood for it.

I wonder if we'll ever learn anything of interest about Narcissa in canon. Is she a Death Eater? How would that affect Bellatrix's status?


eponis: Percy Weasley/Draco Malfoy

Another one where I'm not quite clear on whether they've actually had any canonical interaction. One thought that occurs to me is that (some of) fandom likes to make Percy evil, and (some of) fandom likes to make Draco good. Might it be cool to see them pass each other going opposite directions? Maybe? (If I wrote that, the title would be a reference to "As I was going to Saint Ives".)

Percy's cool, in any case, no matter who you pair him with. There should be much more Percy fic. He's so much fun to despoil. *pinches his cheeks*


And that's it. Unless someone wants more. ^_^

Comments

[tekalynn.livejournal.com]

That was terrific, Eo!

Oooh, ooh, I just thought of a pairing which I don't think has been brought up yet: Percy/Barty Crouch Sr.

[pauraque]

Oh, good one!

[zauberer-sirin.livejournal.com]

In conclusion: Can I watch Jason Isaacs and John Glover shag? Pleeeeeeease?

Can I join the watching?

[pauraque]

Yes. Yes you can.

[shezan.livejournal.com]

I've never read the Epic Fic for this pairing (and probably never will)

Do it! Do it! It all makes perfect sense. I swear. Bestest HP series EVAH.

[pauraque]

It's a silly reason I haven't read it, really. My first impression of the author was an argument I had with her, and since then I haven't been able to work up the desire to read the fic.

[malograntum.livejournal.com]

Way back in the mists of time, some friends and I took a bus to Colorado for a Rocky Horror Picture Show convention. On the way there, we encountered another group of travelers who were taking the bus to Colorado for a Titanic convention. This was shortly after the DiCaprio flick came out; while I guess it's possible they were history buffs, it seemed more likely to me that they were along the order of squeeing fangirls with period costumes in their suitcases and notebooks full of Suefic.

Oh my god, I was JUST telling my roommate about that trip. But the lady going to the Titanic convention was a history buff! She was, like, 45. And she'd made friends with the dissolute but relatively congenial heroin addict in the seat next to her. Am I wrong?

(Denver, Denver, you've got no pretenvers...)

[pauraque]

No, it was a coke addict. I was the heroin addict.

I remember the woman having some young fangirlish companions. I could be making that up, though.

Which was the one with the fantasy baseball convention next door?

[malograntum.livejournal.com]

No, it was a coke addict. I was the heroin addict.

I remember you being the tragic juvenile heroin addict. I guess I conflated that with the Titanic woman's friend.

Which was the one with the fantasy baseball convention next door?

Oh, shit. Was it Tucson?

[pauraque]

Maybe. But I don't really remember Tucson.

Too much heroin, I guess.

[wootsauce.livejournal.com]

I can't believe smoeone took the time to make that lego thing. I also can't believe that I took the time to watch the whole thing o_o

[pauraque]

I watched the whole thing too. I was mesmerized. o_o

[wootsauce.livejournal.com]

I had bitchy commentary from everyone who passed. I don't understan why people feel the need to mock whatever silly internet things I am amusing myself with!

[bardsmaid.livejournal.com]

Paul and Ben used to make stop-action Lego movies back in the day. They'd stay up all night filming, setting up scenes and gradually moving the figures one painstaking motion at the time (this while their conventionally-schooled counterparts slept to be ready for the less-stimulating environment of the classroom.) Ben was in charge of special effects and after some experimentation discovered that Lego canons fire nicely--and realistically--if packed with a BB and matchtips and lit (better, and safer in the end, than using tiny quantities of gunpowder. Don't ask.) They still have a couple of BB holes in Paul's wall from some of those canon firings.

There were bits of humor in their final productions--mainly centered around swordfighting, not suprisingly. I think Paul still has files of them somewhere. Those were cool times.

[pauraque]

Haha, that is so cool! You should share some, if they'll let you.

[bardsmaid.livejournal.com]

Paul says he's lost the oldest ones, which were made with a video camera on VHS tape, but he's still got one of the later ones he made with a webcam. Not great quality but quite funny, actually. He's going to put it up on a page and I'll give you the URL. He shook his head when I mentioned them, btw, saying that an hour's worth of work gets you about five seconds of video. So whoever did that Michael Jackson production must have invested a lot of time in it.

[gmth.livejournal.com]

OHMYGOD THAT LEGO THING IS FUCKING *BRILLIANT*!!

[pauraque]

OMGIKNOW! :D

Am I being argumentative...?

[millefiori.livejournal.com]

It's tricky in some of the same ways that I find Snape/Sirius tricky. I remember the kids who bullied me, and I distinctly did not secretly lust after them.

But...Draco doesn't bully Neville... There's one canon instance of a jinxing, but that's all, and it's (at least IMO) nothing worse than what the Weasley twins do to him all the time. Certainly nothing on par with Snape/Black!

I would say that canonically Neville finds Draco politically offensive, but I doubt he feels personally victimized by him in the way that he does by, say, Snape or the twins.

Re: Am I being argumentative...?

[pauraque]

I think Draco has done more to Neville than that, but I don't have the books on me.

Also, it was just a ramble. Personal impressions. :)

Re: Am I being argumentative...?

[millefiori.livejournal.com]

True, and I thank you for indulging me! :)

[linaelyn.livejournal.com]

She's a rilly big ship, aye!

Thanks! I didn't honestly expect a response, but I truly enjoyed your response. Of course there were bus-riding, costume-wearing, fangirl teenies for Titanic the movie, just as there were for the Historical Oceanliner herself, back in the day...

Rocky Horror Conventions. Another thing I had never considered could exist. But in hindsight, it's an obvious outgrowth of the original canon and fanon.

[flimpy.livejournal.com]

Somehow I find it easier to believe each of them having an intense and interesting relationship with Snape on separate terms than engaging interestingly on their own without that influence.

And it gets even more interesting when the three are lumped together (glurflarblefhgl the hotness), which is why they're the closest thing I have to a semblance of an OT3 even though I've not read a drop of such fic, not to mention it'd be damned hard to pull it off convincingly. The woes of ordering my ships rare. T_T

[marksykins.livejournal.com]

*points you toward hp_springsmut, three or so fics from the top*

[flimpy.livejournal.com]

:D monkey_puppet recced that fic as well, and thanks to you both I'm dead from GUH.

[marksykins.livejournal.com]

Is someone doing Neville/Draco for the [info]pornish_pixies D/s fest? They better be.

Yes, memorycharm, for which I breathe a sigh of relief, as she's one of the few people I know of that have actually handled this pairing interestingly before.

There should be much more Remus/Neville. And Remus/Neville/Harry. Yep.

I agree very much. :D

[atalantapendrag.livejournal.com]

I know in the film CoS there's a brief scene with Percy and Draco, but I don't recall if it's book canon or not.


The Talis Kimberley song "Thin Blue Mean Streak" woke a persistent-but-patient Percy/Draco bunny, but there's a lot of other things yelling louder to be written...

[http://users.livejournal.com/_hannelore/]

I could write more about this.

I hope you are. Hope, hope, hope. :)

"Do cock." Man, it's written in his staaaaaaaaaaaaaaars!

[vvvexation.livejournal.com]

I don't recall Draco actively disliking Remus, just expressing contempt for him.

[lunulet.livejournal.com]

I could write more about this.

Ohh, do! I'm listening. :)

[slinkhard.livejournal.com]

I think Draco is said to dislike Lupin in PoA, though I can't remember if there's any given reason aside from an ornery insistence on hating anyone Harry likes.

He (Lupin) dresses badly, also. (Rather confirming all the speculation over Draco's sexuality, there.)

It seems that it would be so much more interesting to make it messed up. Power play. Revenge fantasies.

Helenish has done a short series based around this.

Another one where I'm not quite clear on whether they've actually had any canonical interaction.

CoS, briefly. A quick search helper is either www.geocities.com/willowsevern or marysia.com/hpcanon

Otto Octavius/Peter Parker

Is there a lot of Doc Ock fic around? I'm not really a Spiderman fan, but... *curiousity is aroused*

[heartstencil.livejournal.com]

Thanks for your thoughts! Garak/Bashir was the first slash pairing I ever read and I did read a lot of it. Somehow, the fic that stands out in my mind involves Julian and a pair of thigh-high boots...