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In Chapter 16, we discussed whether the books encourage rule-breaking, Harry and Ron's intentions in taking Lockhart down to the Chamber, and how the Basilisk has stayed alive.
CoS 17: The Heir of Slytherin
chresimos and I have discussed what we think a "high, cold laugh" is (it comes up again in GoF, where V also has a "high, cold voice"), and decided we don't know. It's high, so it's shrill? A hysterical giggle? But cold too? Dunno.
In any case, it seems this is a vocal quirk of Riddle's that pre-dates becoming a Dark Lord. Though, on the other hand, this incarnation of Tom shares a few odd characteristics with V, such as eyes that glow red (231) which you wouldn't think he'd have had at 16.
Tom: *righteously enraged* I keep telling you, call me by my proper name!
R.S.: *puzzled* But that is your name...
Tom: *pounding fists* No! LORD VOLDEMORT!
R.S.: ...Uh-huh. Okay, Tommy, catch you later.
Tom: *angst*
The movie also has Harry distract the Basilisk with the clatter of a thrown pebble, which is just... *facepalm* Even if the Basilisk had felt the vibration, Harry was right in front of its face; as Tom quite rightly points out, it can easily smell him.
idlerat has previously pointed out the phallic imagery there.
Past re-read posts are here. Just one more chapter left.
CoS 17: The Heir of Slytherin
Then, as he drew level with the last pair of pillars, a statue high as the Chamber itself loomed into view, standing against the back wall.It's confirmed a bit later that this is indeed Salazar. Monkey-like! Somehow this detail seems to have escaped Founder-fic.
Harry had to crane his neck to look up into the giant face above: it was ancient and monkey-like, with a long thin beard that fell almost to the bottom of the wizard's sweeping stone robes[...] (226)
'Well, that's an interesting question,' said Riddle pleasantly. 'And quite a long story[...]' (228)And there's nothing Tom/V likes better than a loooooong story.
[Tom:] '[...]I suppose the real reason Ginny Weasley's like this is because she opened her heart and spilled all her secrets to an invisible stranger.' (228)Hm. Another reinforcement of the idea that it's unwise to confide in people.
Riddle laughed, a high, cold laugh that didn't suit him. (228)
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In any case, it seems this is a vocal quirk of Riddle's that pre-dates becoming a Dark Lord. Though, on the other hand, this incarnation of Tom shares a few odd characteristics with V, such as eyes that glow red (231) which you wouldn't think he'd have had at 16.
[Tom imitating Ginny:] '[...]Dear Tom, I can't remember what I did on the night of Hallowe'en, but a cat was attacked and I've got paint all down my front[...]' (229)Paint, then, not blood.
'Well, you see, Ginny told me all about you, Harry,' said Riddle. 'Your whole fascinating history.' His eyes roved over the lightning scar on Harry's forehead, and his expression grew hungrier. (229)Yeah, this makes sense. The diary was made before V's disintegration, obviously, so he didn't know about Harry until Ginny brought him up.
'[...]On the one hand, Tom Riddle, poor but brilliant, parentless but so brave, school Prefect, model student[...]' (229-230)Just as good at manipulating adults as Harry is!
'[...]on the other hand, big, blundering Hagrid, in trouble every other week, trying to raise werewolf cubs under his bed[...]' (230)Beg your pardon? Werewolf cubs. If anything, this'd have to be a figure of speech.
'Well, [Dumbledore] certainly kept an annoyingly close watch on me after Hagrid was expelled,' said Riddle carelessly. 'I knew it wouldn't be safe to open the Chamber again while I was still at school. But I wasn't going to waste those long years I'd spent searching for it. I decided to leave behind a diary, preserving my sixteen-year-old self in its pages, so that one day, with luck, I would be able to lead another in my footsteps, and finish Salazar Slytherin's noble work.' (230)Uh-huh. But now, "killing Mudbloods doesn't matter to [him] anymore" (230), all he wants to do is kill Harry, which I guess would explain why he hasn't actually... er, killed anyone. Perhaps it makes sense... he doesn't want Harry to get in the way of his future self returning to power.
I AM LORD VOLDEMORTRandom Slytherin: Fancy a fly around the pitch, Riddle?
'You see?' he whispered. 'It was a name I was already using at Hogwarts, to my most intimate friends only, of course[...]' (231)
Tom: *righteously enraged* I keep telling you, call me by my proper name!
R.S.: *puzzled* But that is your name...
Tom: *pounding fists* No! LORD VOLDEMORT!
R.S.: ...Uh-huh. Okay, Tommy, catch you later.
Tom: *angst*
'Twice -- in your past, in my future -- we have met. And twice I failed to kill you[...]' (233)They have indeed met twice, but... huh? If Tom's trying to say something significant here, I can't penetrate its meaning.
Riddle opened his mouth and hissed -- but Harry understood what he was saying. (234)In Chapter 16, we discussed how little JKR knows about snakes. She has a snake wink in PS/SS (snakes don't have eyelids), refers to a green shed snakeskin (they're white-to-brownish), and invents a spoken snake language when snakes can't hear! It would have been just as easy to make it a telepathic language and drop the references to it sounding like hissing, but apparently neither she nor her editor knew any better.
The movie also has Harry distract the Basilisk with the clatter of a thrown pebble, which is just... *facepalm* Even if the Basilisk had felt the vibration, Harry was right in front of its face; as Tom quite rightly points out, it can easily smell him.
A gleaming silver sword had appeared inside the Hat, its handle glittering with rubies the size of eggs. (235)
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Harry could hear Lockhart dangling below him, saying, 'Amazing! Amazing! This is just like magic!' (239)Not to make too much of a throwaway gag, but does this suggest to anyone else that Lockhart was Muggle-born? If he'd been raised in a magical environment, he never would have had the concept in his mind that something could be "just like magic" without in fact being magic, so it would be impossible for him to "forget" back to that point.
Past re-read posts are here. Just one more chapter left.
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Date: 2004-11-08 01:06 pm (UTC)Ok, now that I've stopped laughing too hard to type...
The anagram thing always seemed horribly juvenile to me, and the design of the Dark Mark is even worse. If Lil' Tommy Riddle had been at Hogwarts in the 80s at least he could have had the excuse of being a metalhead. I can only hope he designed it when he was a surly 12-year-old.
If he was a teenager now, he'd be shopping at Hot Topic. Just saying.
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Date: 2004-11-09 12:05 am (UTC)I rather like it and always have.
What's ugly about the design is Grandpre's rendition of it. I have temporary tats of the snake and the serpent that I wear to cons, and they're quite pretty. (I've seen them without but mine also have roses.)
Also, adding "I Am" to a name is a declaration of godhood. G-d is "I am that I am" and so, if your name is I-Am-Lord-Voldemort, you are the god Lord Voldemort.
Alas, JKR has stopped using most of the interesting occult references and has instead gone for the B-movie feel in later installments... Brain...I must have braaaaaaaaaaaaaaain...
Though I suppose nowadays that means quite something else eh?
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Date: 2004-11-09 12:11 am (UTC)Or is she just going to her local lending library, grabbing books on the supernatural at random, and flipping through them for plot bunnies?
Yeah. That's what I thought.
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Date: 2004-11-09 12:15 am (UTC)But she carried the first book around in her head for how long? Yeah, right, and she has outlines of the others but they're not written yet.
In general I would say yes. There is less and less research and folklore, and more and more contrivance, in each subsequent book, and the characters to whom she's given these symbols do seem to be the ones to which she wants to give the least amount of thought.
Waah. I'd better shut up before I get accused of 'bashing' again. I'm here for the fanfic these days ;-)
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Date: 2004-11-09 08:21 pm (UTC)