religion... helps?

[pauraque_bk]

Nano total: 15721.

I was stuck, then I read the bible for a bit and then wrote my characters discussing the bible.

This pretty much works with anything.

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[atdelphi.livejournal.com]

...in the story I'm currently working on, whenever I was stuck, I just had the main character have a drink.

[pauraque]

My main character is a teetotaller, but it hadn't come up yet. I certainly could have her foil offer her a drink and drag out the discussion for at least a few hundred words.

[atdelphi.livejournal.com]

Hee - as it happens, I'm a teetotaller, but a certain Mr. Slughorn is not. :-D

[pauraque]

That seems oddly characteristic for Slughorn in a way. Er, let's see, what am I doing... better have a drink!

I have had to give up alcohol for health reasons. Solidarity!

Actually my main character doesn't drink because she is very loosely based on my mom, who never drank, not even wine. (I suppose this could be incorporated since the characters were discussing Catholicism anyway.)

[atdelphi.livejournal.com]

I just never got the knack for drinking - I'm one of those people who can't even handle caffeine or over the counter allergy pills. :-P But when in doubt over what to do with Slughorn, a safe bet always seems to be to have him uncork a bottle of wine or get into the scotch.

[pauraque]

I seem to have been born with a high tolerance. I've always been able to drink a lot without getting too messed up. I don't know where that comes from since my parents were both lightweights.

You are reminding me that I really wanted to comment on your drabbles, but then something shiny distracted me. I'm going to bed now, but tomorrow for sure!

[muridae-x.livejournal.com]

It's trickier to have all your characters sitting around discussing religion when one of them only knows a handful of words in the others' language.

Although, come to think of it, the one word she keeps hearing but doesn't have a translation for yet is religious. And the other two characters have been discussing religion quite a bit, all unbeknown to her. So yes, I guess I did that yesterday too. ;-)

[pauraque]

I was actually pleased when I read that your characters had a language barrier, and I'm always irked when sci-fi and fantasy writers cheat at that. Why make them all speak English, you're skipping the most interesting part!

I usually incorporate languages into my (non-fanfic) writing. Then I get terribly distracted writing a grammar of the languages involved. I promised myself I wouldn't do that this time, and it worked for a while since the characters only speak English and Spanish, both of which are fairly well documented languages already.

Then of course I managed to decide that one of the minority groups in this setting spoke a Spanish-based pidgin, and oh dear... there I go again. :P

[muridae-x.livejournal.com]

Oh dear, indeed. :-( But I've always been wildly impressed by your language building skills. I could really do with some level of proficiency at that myself for what I'm doing here, but even pulling vocabulary from an existing (if obscure) language is a major time suck.

I knew my characters were going to have a language barrier before I started. It was one of the few bits of prep work I did in advance. It's incredibly good fun, having one character struggle to communicate, with no way of properly comprehending what she's seeing. She's misunderstanding certain things in a pretty major way.

[pauraque]

One of the candidate ideas I thought about using for Nano, but didn't, was an old story I never finished about a human who has immigrated to an alien planet. And somewhat like in your story, he lacks the resources to make it easy -- it's not like he's a visiting diplomat, he has to learn the language and culture by immersion, and he has to do it in order to survive.

I think part of the reason I'm fascinated by language barriers and culture shock is that living in an extremely diverse area, I see it in daily life all the time. In London you probably experience the same thing.

I saw someone on the Nano forums suggest that if you get caught up writing about the languages, pull a Tolkien -- make it an appendix and add it to your word count. :)

[muridae-x.livejournal.com]

There are two completely different ethnicities just in the immediate area where I live, both of whom talk in their own language in public places and get aisles of the supermarkets devoted to them. If you widen the net about five miles, you can pull in three or four more. So yes, you get used to living in the midst of babel on a daily basis.

I also grew up in a town with a high immigrant population. English speaking, it's true, but it does mean that differences in dialect are something that I've been conscious of all my life.

if you get caught up writing about the languages, pull a Tolkien -- make it an appendix and add it to your word count. :)

Excellent plan - that's another 50 words, even with just the few words I've scattered through the story so far.

And now I must stop procrastinating and go and write some of the thing. :-)

[thimble-kiss.livejournal.com]

That's a solution I've never thought of that does sound instinctively true. So much happens in the Bible and it's almost all controversial. I will note that and put it into my (at the moment pitifully unused) writer's bag of tricks.

I keep watching your and Muridae's rising numbers, most impressed with (and slightly envious of) the self-discipline they show. :)

[pauraque]

I started out confident that if I got stuck I could just write crap or nonsense, and many times in the past week I have, but it's much harder than I thought it would be. I think this must be the true benefit of Nano, it teaches you to stop being a perfectionist and learn the value of writing anything that comes to mind.

A hundred times I've started writing an idea that's inane or stupid, and then found a better idea suddenly emerging a few sentences or even a few words later. Those ideas wouldn't exist if I'd just sat there staring at the page.

[muridae-x.livejournal.com]

I think this must be the true benefit of Nano, it teaches you to stop being a perfectionist and learn the value of writing anything that comes to mind.

Yes, that's exactly it for me: it teaches me to keep going, rather than to think that I've done enough for the day and then stop. And to not revise the same three paragraphs endlessly instead of writing the ones that should follow them.

[pauraque]

And to not revise the same three paragraphs endlessly instead of writing the ones that should follow them.

omg exactly :|

[muridae-x.livejournal.com]

Heh. If I had any self-discipline, I'd have finished some of those X-Files and HP stories I started, instead of drying after the first couple of thousand words.

This is mostly my attempt to train myself into it. ;-)